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Ken
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PostPosted: Tue May 20, 2008 7:59 am    Post subject: Re: New FISMA Information Assurance Tool - xbasics Ulinzi Reply with quote

On Tue, 20 May 2008 01:43:16 GMT, "David H. Lipman"
<DLipman~nospam~@Verizon.Net> wrote:

Quote:
From: <eeajam@gmail.com

| Dave, are you're saying posts on public newsgroups are actually
| solicited? Please explain me how this works so I'll know?

If someone poses a problem or question and you reply with a solution, it is solicited.

Now if someone was looking for a FIPS compliant IA tool and you responded with Ulinzi as a
possible solution, that would not be spam.
David, ONE posting, politely worded, to an appropriate newsgroup does

not constitute spam. It is an informative message to the readers of
that group. You are at liberty to ignore it or not.

A message to dozens of groups, or a message oft repeated, or a blatant
advert full of puffed up language, does constitute spam and should be
attacked accordingly. Would you say that someone who responds to all,
or a majority of, enquiries with the same recommended product as a
spammer?
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David H. Lipman
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PostPosted: Wed May 21, 2008 1:18 am    Post subject: Re: New FISMA Information Assurance Tool - xbasics Ulinzi Reply with quote

From: <eeajam@gmail.com>

Quote:
One word - product.

| What about the product advertised at the bottom of your emails?
| Again, you're not being fair here!



That's a signature and is less than 4 lines longs and is conformative to all Usenet
standards.

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Dave
http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html
Multi-AV - http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp
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David H. Lipman
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PostPosted: Wed May 21, 2008 3:11 am    Post subject: Re: New FISMA Information Assurance Tool - xbasics Ulinzi Reply with quote

From: "Ken" <kwar6996@bigpond.net.au>


| David, ONE posting, politely worded, to an appropriate newsgroup does
| not constitute spam. It is an informative message to the readers of
| that group. You are at liberty to ignore it or not.
|
| A message to dozens of groups, or a message oft repeated, or a blatant
| advert full of puffed up language, does constitute spam and should be
| attacked accordingly. Would you say that someone who responds to all,
| or a majority of, enquiries with the same recommended product as a
| spammer?

Granted - one noted post. Lets teach the Google Grouper such that its is wrong so it such
actions are repeated numerously.

Yes, if someone posted the SAME response top numerous posts with the same content it might
be considered spam but more like a shill.

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Dave
http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html
Multi-AV - http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp
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Leonard Agoado
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PostPosted: Sat May 24, 2008 2:47 am    Post subject: Re: New FISMA Information Assurance Tool - xbasics Ulinzi Reply with quote

<eeajam@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:d2661369-e4e3-4d8d-af1a-0b1f0a59a733@59g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
Quote:
So, you're saying information about conferences, seminars,
websites or
any tool whatsoever, regardless if they are within the topic of
the
newsgroup should not be allowed, as they are advertisements?



I think what they are saying is that you should understand the
following basic concept and apply it to the current case through
analogy -

Anatidae - identification and verification --

1. walks like
2. quacks like


Regards,

Len Agoado
agoado@msn.com
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Kyle T. Jones
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 11:18 pm    Post subject: Re: New FISMA Information Assurance Tool - xbasics Ulinzi Reply with quote

eeajam@gmail.com wrote:
Quote:
Well, I see posts about conferences, seminars, and other tools within
this newsgroup, and I don't see you stating anything about spam in
those posts. According to your statements, that would be unsolited
newsgroup entries and they should be labeled as spam, but you haven't
done that have you? I haven't seen anyone requesting information
about any particular conference, for example, but the post is there.
And it should be there as this is a public forum, that post is within
the topic of the forum and it targets the interest of the readers.
What's the problem with that?

It fails multiple ethical tests. Wanna prove it to yerself? Try
following an active group with zero spam filtering.

Cheers.
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